Comments for Locusts and Wild Honey http://elbourne.org Don Elbourne's Blog Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:18:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 Comment on Joel Osteen by Lorrie Crawford http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-130346 Lorrie Crawford Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:18:13 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-130346 It is interesting that one can attend a single meeting and thereafter think that he is qualified to assume full ability to provide the nation with an accurate account of the leader's qualifications, ministerial calling, and his overall position relevant to his service in God. (Heaven forbid that the Lord of would approve of such unmitigated, immoral, unholy, counterfeit; biased and judgemental, "religous" information!) Come on; can we not for a moment be real? By the way, for this type of ignorance, repentance equally serves us all. (Let us therefore "Search the Scriptures; for in them you THINK you have eternal life; and they are they which testify of me," says the Lord Jesus) - - John 5:39 It is interesting that one can attend a single meeting and thereafter think that he is qualified to assume full ability to provide the nation with an accurate account of the leader’s qualifications, ministerial calling, and his overall position relevant to his service in God. (Heaven forbid that the Lord of would approve of such unmitigated, immoral, unholy, counterfeit; biased and judgemental, “religous” information!) Come on; can we not for a moment be real? By the way, for this type of ignorance, repentance equally serves us all. (Let us therefore “Search the Scriptures; for in them you THINK you have eternal life; and they are they which testify of me,” says the Lord Jesus) – - John 5:39

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Mediasiana http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-130344 Mediasiana Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:03:31 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-130344 See what is profit and good for you. Listen with you open heart and open mind. Want to change, it is nothing to say about osteen.Talk about something good when you listen to his sermon. Think about the messege,love the person and hate you bad habbit. See what is profit and good for you. Listen with you open heart and open mind. Want to change, it is nothing to say about osteen.Talk about something good when you listen to his sermon. Think about the messege,love the person and hate you bad habbit.

]]> Comment on Lord’s Supper Bread Recipe by Hayley green http://elbourne.org/2005/03/lords-supper-bread-recipe/#comment-130281 Hayley green Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:25:17 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/03/21/lords-supper-bread-recipe/#comment-130281 I'm not Jewish. I shall use honey in mine :) good day. I’m not Jewish. I shall use honey in mine :) good day.

]]> Comment on Lakeshore Baptist Church Covenant by David Ammerman http://elbourne.org/2009/05/lakeshore-baptist-church-covenant/#comment-128562 David Ammerman Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:06:24 +0000 http://elbourne.org/?p=314#comment-128562 Our church, here in Southern Indiana has, from it's founding constitution, of 1974, had a very similar covenant statement, for which we have recently been curious as to it's authorship. I was very interested to find that it's so close to yours. Do you know if yours was originaly composed by one of your church's members? We're just curious. Our pastor resently did a sermon series on sincerely striving to live-up to that covenant. I would much-appreciate a response, David Ammerman Our church, here in Southern Indiana has, from it’s founding constitution, of 1974, had a very similar covenant statement, for which we have recently been curious as to it’s authorship. I was very interested to find that it’s so close to yours. Do you know if yours was originaly composed by one of your church’s members?
We’re just curious. Our pastor resently did a sermon series on sincerely striving to live-up to that covenant.
I would much-appreciate a response,
David Ammerman

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by anonymous http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-128121 anonymous Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:49:38 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-128121 Look how many "judges"? It is surprising that so many of you are called to "Judge". Such hypocrisy. Let me do just that as well. I bet all of you condemning Joel's ministry are over 40 years old... Look how many “judges”? It is surprising that so many of you are called to “Judge”. Such hypocrisy. Let me do just that as well. I bet all of you condemning Joel’s ministry are over 40 years old…

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Khampee http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-127709 Khampee Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:23:41 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-127709 See what is profit and good for you. Listen with you open heart and open mind. Want to change, it is nothing to say about osteen.Talk about something good when you listen to his sermon. Think about the messege,love the person and hate you bad habbit. See what is profit and good for you. Listen with you open heart and open mind. Want to change, it is nothing to say about osteen.Talk about something good when you listen to his sermon. Think about the messege,love the person and hate you bad habbit.

]]> Comment on Preaching Ephesians by Mark Browne http://elbourne.org/2007/05/preaching-ephesians/#comment-125610 Mark Browne Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:57:10 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2007/05/02/preaching-ephesians/#comment-125610 I'd never preach Ephesians without a long look at Hoener's massive commentary. He taught me advanced Greek Exegesis at Dallas Seminary and this is his best and final statement on the book. I'm thinking of preaching the book to a church I may be called to pastor soon. The church is small, barely making its budget and is fighting itself to determine the future course of its purpose. I would begin my preaching ministry there by talking about the church/Church- form and function and I can't think of a better place to begin. Comments? I’d never preach Ephesians without a long look at Hoener’s massive commentary. He taught me advanced Greek Exegesis at Dallas Seminary and this is his best and final statement on the book.

I’m thinking of preaching the book to a church I may be called to pastor soon. The church is small, barely making its budget and is fighting itself to determine the future course of its purpose. I would begin my preaching ministry there by talking about the church/Church- form and function and I can’t think of a better place to begin. Comments?

]]> Comment on Vintage Jesus by jimmy http://elbourne.org/2008/03/vintage-jesus/#comment-125119 jimmy Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:20:14 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2008/03/29/vintage-jesus/#comment-125119 a good book by Drisccoll. i really love it a good book by Drisccoll. i really love it

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Jeane M. http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-124892 Jeane M. Sat, 07 Aug 2010 06:51:09 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-124892 Dear Mr. Elbourne, Thanks so very much for I understood where 'you' were coming from all along, and it also shows me just how quickly Bible prophecy is being ful-filled in instances like these. NO, you were not bashing, 'player-hating', or any other such nonsense when it comes to Olsteen and his ilk, just telling the 'truth' via the Word which it seems some really can't take. When I see comments from people like Traci who talk about 'rhetoric', Andrew and others who speak about not 'judging' folks (but the Bible does give us the authority to do so, especially when the Word is being used to deceive the very people it's supposed to be saving.). I've also noticed how "too many people" keep saying, "Joel's done this and Joel's done that for me" (to bring me back to the church and to God, but will the 'talks' that he does keep in close to God and Jesus, and make you want to live for 'them', not Joel?), when in fact the very God who made us ALL was actually the one doing it. My heart goes out to Wes Hancock, Traci, Michela, Paul cote, Mark Kieffer, etc. because the 'itching ears' syndrome has begun in earnest, and God/Jesus will most certainly hold us accountable for the 'lies' that were believed, when 'their' Word said something totally different. Many thanks to you Mr. Elbourne, Richard, Michael Rome, Warren, and Jeri Massi to name a few for standing up for the unadulterated truth of the Gospel, despite what anyone says or thinks. Jesus wasn't popular when He talked about 'sin, repentence, or anything else that the 'crowd' couldn't accept. I heard Joel say in the very beginning of all of this that "he didn't want to beat people down with the sin word, because they'd been through enough already", really??? So, we call ourselves followers of Christ, but only talk about those parts that "make others feel good about themselves, rather than letting them know Jesus is coming and that must get right with God"?? Mr. Elbourne, God is not playing, either we're going to serve Him in 'truth', or we're going to follow the lies of mankind and satan. Instead of those people constantly holding up those Bibles and repeating what's said, why not "read" them so that they will be able to 'know' for themselves what's true and what's not via that Bible? James 4:17 is so true. I pray to God and Jesus Christ, that Joel and ALL who follow him will "get right with God", by seeing what 'He' has to say before it's too late. Dear Mr. Elbourne, Thanks so very much for I understood where ‘you’ were coming from all along, and it also shows me just how quickly Bible prophecy is being ful-filled in instances like these.
NO, you were not bashing, ‘player-hating’, or any other such nonsense when it comes to Olsteen and his ilk, just telling the ‘truth’ via the Word which it seems some really can’t take.
When I see comments from people like Traci who talk about ‘rhetoric’, Andrew and others who speak about not ‘judging’ folks (but the Bible does give us the authority to do so, especially when the Word is being used to deceive the very people it’s supposed to be saving.).
I’ve also noticed how “too many people” keep saying, “Joel’s done this and Joel’s done that for me” (to bring me back to the church and to God, but will the ‘talks’ that he does keep in close to God and Jesus, and make you want to live for ‘them’, not Joel?), when in fact the very God who made us ALL was actually the one doing it.
My heart goes out to Wes Hancock, Traci, Michela, Paul cote, Mark Kieffer, etc. because the ‘itching ears’ syndrome has begun in earnest, and God/Jesus will most certainly hold us accountable for the ‘lies’ that were believed, when ‘their’ Word said something totally different.
Many thanks to you Mr. Elbourne, Richard, Michael Rome, Warren, and Jeri Massi to name a few for standing up for the unadulterated truth of the Gospel, despite what anyone says or thinks.
Jesus wasn’t popular when He talked about ‘sin, repentence, or anything else that the ‘crowd’ couldn’t accept. I heard Joel say in the very beginning of all of this that “he didn’t want to beat people down with the sin word, because they’d been through enough already”, really??? So, we call ourselves followers of Christ, but only talk about those parts that “make others feel good about themselves, rather than letting them know Jesus is coming and that must get right with God”??
Mr. Elbourne, God is not playing, either we’re going to serve Him in ‘truth’, or we’re going to follow the lies of mankind and satan. Instead of those people constantly holding up those Bibles and repeating what’s said, why not “read” them so that they will be able to ‘know’ for themselves what’s true and what’s not via that Bible? James 4:17 is so true.
I pray to God and Jesus Christ, that Joel and ALL who follow him will “get right with God”, by seeing what ‘He’ has to say before it’s too late.

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Paul N http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-124863 Paul N Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:17:22 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-124863 David Hanson, God brought you back to Himself, not Joel Osteen. However that doesnt mean that his teaching is biblical for it is not. It was the message of God, I only hope you did not come back to Christ for what you think He is going to do for you and wants you to have. @Barbara, if you think fame is a indication of God, you are mistaken. The size and fame is irrelevant. Most people rejected Christ and willd do so even now, so when you find the world flocking, watch out! The world hates the message of the gospel. @Dan, I went to Lakewood and Joel Osteen's teaching is foolishness, he even says that he doesnt teach DOCTRINE! Again prosperity is a not always a sign of God's endorsement. There is a blog on Oprah' blog and many comments said that Osteen and Ekhard Tolle had the same message! If he doing such a great job a preaching the gospel how could they be so confused? Blessings!! David Hanson, God brought you back to Himself, not Joel Osteen.

However that doesnt mean that his teaching is biblical for it is not.

It was the message of God, I only hope you did not come back to Christ for what you think He is going to do for you and wants you to have.

@Barbara, if you think fame is a indication of God, you are mistaken. The size and fame is irrelevant. Most people rejected Christ and willd do so even now, so when you find the world flocking, watch out! The world hates the message of the gospel.

@Dan, I went to Lakewood and Joel Osteen’s teaching is foolishness, he even says that he doesnt teach DOCTRINE! Again prosperity is a not always a sign of God’s endorsement.

There is a blog on Oprah’ blog and many comments said that Osteen and Ekhard Tolle had the same message! If he doing such a great job a preaching the gospel how could they be so confused?

Blessings!!

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Christopher Chipps http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-124473 Christopher Chipps Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:39:40 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-124473 I challenge every fan of Joel Osteen to get out their bibles in their spare time and read the following verses and if I were a betting man which I'm not, but if I were, I'd bet Mr. Osteen never reads or preaches from those verses. How does Mr. Osteen's sermons measure up to these following verses and does what Mr. Osteen "preaches" have anything to do with these verses straight from the word of God? Matt. 5:22 Matt. 5:29,30 Matt. 8:12 Matt.13:38-42 Matt. 23:33 Matt. 24:4-13 Mark 3:29 Mark 9:43-49 Mark 16:15,16 Mark 10:21 Luke 12:15 Luke 13:3,5 John 3:3,5 Romans 3:10 Romans 3:23 Romans 6:23 2 Cor.7:10 Gal.1:7-10 Eph.6:10-13 Phil.3:17-20 Col.3:2 2 Thess. 1:7,8 1 Tim.1:15 1 Tim.4:1-3 2 Tim.4:2-5 Heb. 2:3 Heb.9:27 Heb. 12:8 James 4:4 James 4:7 1 Peter 4:1 1 John 1:8-10 1 John 2:15,16 How about reading some chapters in Revelation. Here is one from the Old Testament- Psalm 34:19 There are many more I'm sure and if you were to be 100% honest, you will admit that Mr. Osteen's ministry is NOT a christian ministry. I challenge every fan of Joel Osteen to get out their bibles in their spare time and read the following verses and if I were a betting man which I’m not, but if I were, I’d bet Mr. Osteen never reads or preaches from those verses. How does Mr. Osteen’s sermons measure up to these following verses and does what Mr. Osteen “preaches” have anything to do with these verses straight from the word of God?
Matt. 5:22
Matt. 5:29,30
Matt. 8:12
Matt.13:38-42
Matt. 23:33
Matt. 24:4-13
Mark 3:29
Mark 9:43-49
Mark 16:15,16
Mark 10:21
Luke 12:15
Luke 13:3,5
John 3:3,5
Romans 3:10
Romans 3:23
Romans 6:23
2 Cor.7:10
Gal.1:7-10
Eph.6:10-13
Phil.3:17-20
Col.3:2
2 Thess. 1:7,8
1 Tim.1:15
1 Tim.4:1-3
2 Tim.4:2-5
Heb. 2:3
Heb.9:27
Heb. 12:8
James 4:4
James 4:7
1 Peter 4:1
1 John 1:8-10
1 John 2:15,16
How about reading some chapters in Revelation.
Here is one from the Old Testament- Psalm 34:19

There are many more I’m sure and if you were to be 100% honest, you will admit that Mr. Osteen’s ministry is NOT a christian ministry.

]]> Comment on 1 Billion Dollar Spurgeon by cristian http://elbourne.org/2006/11/1-billion-dollar-spurgeon/#comment-124459 cristian Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:22:21 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2006/11/10/1-billion-dollar-spurgeon/#comment-124459 i also have one of that bill can u help me exchange it please live an answer gucci_occident21@yahoo.com i also have one of that bill can u help me exchange it please live an answer gucci_occident21@yahoo.com

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Oldie but a Goodie: Pastor Don Elbourne on Joel Osteen « Jared Moore http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-124341 Oldie but a Goodie: Pastor Don Elbourne on Joel Osteen « Jared Moore Mon, 14 Jun 2010 02:08:36 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-124341 [...] MS that was nearly wiped off the map by Huricane Katrina.  I also want to commend a telling article about Joel Osteen that he wrote back in 2005.  If you have time, read the comments as well.  It is amazing the [...] [...] MS that was nearly wiped off the map by Huricane Katrina.  I also want to commend a telling article about Joel Osteen that he wrote back in 2005.  If you have time, read the comments as well.  It is amazing the [...]

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Jared Moore http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-124332 Jared Moore Sun, 13 Jun 2010 05:30:37 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-124332 It is disturbing to see so many support a man that tells people what they want to hear, instead of what they desparately need. The entire point of the Bible is to show us that we cannot do what God requires because we are broken from the get-go. Our sin has hindered us from pleasing God regardless what our best efforts are. Having your best life now, is not the gospel. Doing better, focussing on temporal blessings, etc. are not the gospel. The gospel is that Jesus died to reconcile you to his Father, to propitiate (satisfy) God's wrath toward you, so that in the resurrected Christ you would be in a right relationship with God. Thus, though you may be poor, pitiful, unathletic, ugly, fat, unhealthy, etc. you are spiritually rich in Christ. Thus, Christ is the value of Christianity, we aren't. Olsteen sends people running to the mirror while saying "I couldn't have done it without God," when in reality people do what you have without acknowledging God, even defying Him everyday. The reality is that Jesus died to reconcile us to His Father, not to give us our best lives now. Jesus did not die to make you temporally healthy, wealthy, joyful, satisfied, etc. instead He died to reconcile you eternally to His Father. In the end you will have all these things because of Him, but now, spiritually, you possess these things as well in Christ. Christ is thus the value of salvation, the value of heaven... we aren't. Enjoying God should be the goal of our lives on earth, since this is the goal of heaven and is the goal of Christ, but instead Osteen encourages us to enjoy this world while merely giving God lip-service. After all, if our best life now is in temporal, self-help blessings, whether we use God's name or not is irrelevant because we believe that "salvation" can be bought with money or can be found in temporal, yet perishable human efforts. Osteen encourages us to enjoy these temporal things in place of enjoying God because the blessings are the goal, not GOD. If the gospel is true, then YES, you can have your best life now... IN GOD; and it doesn't matter if you're rich, successful, healthy, etc. it only matters if you have come to Him through the finished work of Christ. If you have Him, then you can enjoy God regardless whether you are temporally blessed or you are felling the effects of the curse. Salvation is here and now in Christ, but will be fully realized in the eschatos. Until then, do what you were created to do: enjoy God the Father through repenting of your sins, placing your trust in Jesus Christ, and enjoying everyday in Him, whether you receive money or are starved to death, for God can be glorified through both. His grace is sufficient. It is disturbing to see so many support a man that tells people what they want to hear, instead of what they desparately need. The entire point of the Bible is to show us that we cannot do what God requires because we are broken from the get-go. Our sin has hindered us from pleasing God regardless what our best efforts are. Having your best life now, is not the gospel. Doing better, focussing on temporal blessings, etc. are not the gospel. The gospel is that Jesus died to reconcile you to his Father, to propitiate (satisfy) God’s wrath toward you, so that in the resurrected Christ you would be in a right relationship with God. Thus, though you may be poor, pitiful, unathletic, ugly, fat, unhealthy, etc. you are spiritually rich in Christ. Thus, Christ is the value of Christianity, we aren’t. Olsteen sends people running to the mirror while saying “I couldn’t have done it without God,” when in reality people do what you have without acknowledging God, even defying Him everyday. The reality is that Jesus died to reconcile us to His Father, not to give us our best lives now. Jesus did not die to make you temporally healthy, wealthy, joyful, satisfied, etc. instead He died to reconcile you eternally to His Father. In the end you will have all these things because of Him, but now, spiritually, you possess these things as well in Christ. Christ is thus the value of salvation, the value of heaven… we aren’t. Enjoying God should be the goal of our lives on earth, since this is the goal of heaven and is the goal of Christ, but instead Osteen encourages us to enjoy this world while merely giving God lip-service. After all, if our best life now is in temporal, self-help blessings, whether we use God’s name or not is irrelevant because we believe that “salvation” can be bought with money or can be found in temporal, yet perishable human efforts. Osteen encourages us to enjoy these temporal things in place of enjoying God because the blessings are the goal, not GOD. If the gospel is true, then YES, you can have your best life now… IN GOD; and it doesn’t matter if you’re rich, successful, healthy, etc. it only matters if you have come to Him through the finished work of Christ. If you have Him, then you can enjoy God regardless whether you are temporally blessed or you are felling the effects of the curse. Salvation is here and now in Christ, but will be fully realized in the eschatos. Until then, do what you were created to do: enjoy God the Father through repenting of your sins, placing your trust in Jesus Christ, and enjoying everyday in Him, whether you receive money or are starved to death, for God can be glorified through both. His grace is sufficient.

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Anita http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-123804 Anita Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:06:05 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-123804 Joel Osteen is too good. He gives u a new view of the teachings of Christ something that no one else teaches. Everyone knows that Christ came for us and went up the cross for us. but there is something that not everyone knows and that is Christ wants us to live abundantly ..and that is what Osteen tries to bring out. Joel Osteen is too good. He gives u a new view of the teachings of Christ something that no one else teaches. Everyone knows that Christ came for us and went up the cross for us. but there is something that not everyone knows and that is Christ wants us to live abundantly ..and that is what Osteen tries to bring out.

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Margaret Nyaga http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-123779 Margaret Nyaga Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:07:45 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-123779 I like his preaching in encouraging others. I like his preaching in encouraging others.

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by B http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-123773 B Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:19:56 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-123773 To Paul Young, While what you have to say sounds nice, the bible warns us to be very careful, testing everything with the word of God (1Thessalonians 5:21). Certainly when Jesus preached, He was far less concerned with 'lifting the spirits' of His audience, and far more concerned with speaking the truth. At one point Jesus called a group of his listeners a brood of snakes (Matthew 23:33). John warns us in 2John 1:7-11 about false prophets, at one point saying 'Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God'. If Christ taught a life of prosperity for those who followed Him, then we'd be fine here. This is not the case though. Several times Jesus warns us that following Him comes at a cost, that cost potentially being our very lives (see Matthew 8:19-20 and Luke 9:22-26). These are only a few references, I encourage you to look up the scripture for yourself. We can also look at the examples given to us in scripture. Every single on of Jesus' disciples (except one) was martyred, obviously not including Judas who killed himself. This does not sound very prosperous and uplifting to me. And look at the Apostle Paul, who wrote over 2/3 of the new testament. Would you say he lived a prosperous life? If so you should check out 2Corinthians 11:23-29. Understand that I am not trying to win an argument, simply trying to show you biblically why a prosperity message contradicts what scripture teaches about following Christ. The bible commands us to watch each others backs, which is simply what I'm trying to do for you brother. Don't be fooled by this message, and if you don't want to listen to me, then look at the scripture for yourself. To Paul Young,
While what you have to say sounds nice, the bible warns us to be very careful, testing everything with the word of God (1Thessalonians 5:21). Certainly when Jesus preached, He was far less concerned with ‘lifting the spirits’ of His audience, and far more concerned with speaking the truth. At one point Jesus called a group of his listeners a brood of snakes (Matthew 23:33).
John warns us in 2John 1:7-11 about false prophets, at one point saying ‘Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God’.
If Christ taught a life of prosperity for those who followed Him, then we’d be fine here. This is not the case though. Several times Jesus warns us that following Him comes at a cost, that cost potentially being our very lives (see Matthew 8:19-20 and Luke 9:22-26). These are only a few references, I encourage you to look up the scripture for yourself.
We can also look at the examples given to us in scripture. Every single on of Jesus’ disciples (except one) was martyred, obviously not including Judas who killed himself. This does not sound very prosperous and uplifting to me. And look at the Apostle Paul, who wrote over 2/3 of the new testament. Would you say he lived a prosperous life? If so you should check out 2Corinthians 11:23-29.
Understand that I am not trying to win an argument, simply trying to show you biblically why a prosperity message contradicts what scripture teaches about following Christ. The bible commands us to watch each others backs, which is simply what I’m trying to do for you brother. Don’t be fooled by this message, and if you don’t want to listen to me, then look at the scripture for yourself.

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Paul Young http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-123247 Paul Young Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:25:03 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-123247 I think Joel Osteen is right on target with his ministry. He is a breath of fresh air to the Christian community. His messages lift my spirit and that is what the messanger of God should be doing. There's enough hatred and hard words in this world without the church adding to it. Joel's message is full of love, God's love. GOD IS LOVE I think Joel Osteen is right on target with his ministry. He is a breath of fresh air to the Christian community. His messages lift my spirit and that is what the messanger of God should be doing. There’s enough hatred and hard words in this world without the church adding to it. Joel’s message is full of love, God’s love.
GOD IS LOVE

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by Dan http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-122474 Dan Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:22:12 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-122474 QUICK SOMEONE BETTER TELL GOD ABOUT THIS GUY! Oh wait a minute maybe God is the one who is blessing him and his ministry and all these critical people on this site are jealous. Oh, how much is God blessing your ministry? Take the planks out of your own eyes people. QUICK SOMEONE BETTER TELL GOD ABOUT THIS GUY! Oh wait a minute maybe God is the one who is blessing him and his ministry and all these critical people on this site are jealous. Oh, how much is God blessing your ministry? Take the planks out of your own eyes people.

]]> Comment on Joel Osteen by jeffrey http://elbourne.org/2005/01/joel-osteen/#comment-122392 jeffrey Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:02:13 +0000 http://elbourne.org/archives/2005/01/31/joel-osteen/#comment-122392 if Benny Hinn, Morris Serulo, Billy Grahams, Rick Warren and Joel Osteen and many more were received comments from us about their service in God, whose the right person to follow then? Muslim, Judism, Budism or other Christian sect? Just pray for them rather than made them a center of funny discussion. If I am not really a founded Christian and I read your comments and blog, it will affect my chance to believe in God. I just really sad about what happend in the present chritian world...I am not very good in English but i hope you do understand what i am talking about... God bless us...The meaning of Cross is salvation and forgiveness and not confussion. I love God and i want to show it to Him the way i talk, the way i think, the way i plan, the i respect His annointed people. I hope you get something. if Benny Hinn, Morris Serulo, Billy Grahams, Rick Warren and Joel Osteen and many more were received comments from us about their service in God, whose the right person to follow then? Muslim, Judism, Budism or other Christian sect? Just pray for them rather than made them a center of funny discussion. If I am not really a founded Christian and I read your comments and blog, it will affect my chance to believe in God. I just really sad about what happend in the present chritian world…I am not very good in English but i hope you do understand what i am talking about… God bless us…The meaning of Cross is salvation and forgiveness and not confussion. I love God and i want to show it to Him the way i talk, the way i think, the way i plan, the i respect His annointed people. I hope you get something.

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